Daar word op die oomblik in die kerk meer gepraat oor self-ontplooiing as oor self-opoffering.-Anon.......As ‘n kerk haar woorde begin devalueer, dan word die kerk ‘n ramp vir die volk. - K Schilder


Waarom dit noodsaaklik is dat terme gedefinieer word

Volgens die woordeboek gaan”incarnate / incarnation / incarnational” in Christelike terme oor Jesus se vleeswording. Dit kan ook “beliggaam” beteken. Ek is besig om te probeer agterkom hoe postmodeniste sekere terme definieer, onder andere die term “incarnation/ incarnate / incarnational” . Daarom was opgewonde toe ek in ‘n bepaalde stuk hierdie paragraaf lees: “Certainly, Jesus of Nazareth called on men to follow Him, and in His sermons and teachings he did lay the foundations of a Christian ethic. However, we need to understand that the matchless INCARNATION of the eternal Word of God (John 1:14), His once for all sacrificial death, and His ascension to the throne of God set up a barrier against any “imitatio Christi”. But His atoning sacrifice on the cross to take away our guilt cannot be imitated. This would contradict the Biblical understanding of salvation as taught by the Reformers. Indeed, it is inadmissible to change the message of “Christ for us” to the slogan “Let us act like Christ”, thereby making the Gospel a new law.” Hier het ek dit gelees:


Henrietta said...


"For the church not to speak to pop culture, not to use images that come from it and sounds that come from it, smells that come from it, well ... that's not being very incarnational ... In order to incarnate Christ into the culture that is there, then we have to look to redeem pop culture." (Leonard Sweet quoted at Rick Warren's pastors.com)”

“These days, the word “incarnational” can be heard in most denominations and postmodern churches. It’s at the heart of the new, experiential form of Christianity -- the transformative movement attempting to unify the world under the banner of the evolving “Church”. It fits right into Rick Warrens global P.E.A.C.E. Plan and Brian McLaren's Kingdom of God.”

“It calls for a non-offensive form of the “gospel.” No longer is the emphasis on God's Word and personal regeneration through the Holy Spirit. The new emphasis is primarily on collective experience and unifying community service. To avoid conflict, the true gospel -- including the "offense of the cross" -- must be banned along with other divisive Scriptures.”

Lees meer oor wat postmoderniste onder “incarnational” verstaan hier:

Henrietta said...

'n Ander term wat ek besig om na te kyk, is "missional" of in Afrikaans, "missionaal" - - ek dink dit het nie veel te doen met "sending en evangelisasie" soos ons dit in die "ou dae" verstaan het nie...

Henrietta said...

Neem byvoorbeeld die woord CONTEXTUALIZATION

Wikipedia gee inligting oor die Emerging Church. Hierdie aanhaling kom daaruit ( my hoofletters) :

( Lees hier : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerging_church )

While some Evangelicals emphasize eternal salvation, many in the emerging church emphasize the here and now. Participants in this movement assert that the incarnation of Christ informs their theology. They believe that as God entered the world in human form, adherents enter (individually and communally) into the CONTEXT around them and aim to transform that culture through local involvement. This holistic involvement may take many forms, including social activism, hospitality and acts of kindness. This beneficent involvement in culture is part of what is called missional living. Missional living leads to a focus on temporal and social issues, in contrast with a perceived evangelical overemphasis on salvation. Drawing on research and models of CONTEXTUAL THEOLOGY, Mobsby asserts that the emerging church is using different models of CONTEXTUAL theology than conservative evangelicals, who tend to use a "translation" model of CONTEXTUAL theology (which has been criticized for being colonialist and condescending toward other cultures); the emerging church tends to use a "synthetic" or "transcendent" model of CONTEXTUAL THEOLOGY. The emerging church has charged many conservative evangelical churches with withdrawal from involvement in CONTEXTUAL MISSION and seeking the CONTEXTUALIZATION OF THE GOSPEL.
Lees hier hoe hul CONTEXTUAL THEOLOGY sien:

Henrietta said...

Hier is ‘n baie goeie artikel wat wys hoe die EC en postmodernisme terminologieë troop van hul ware betekenis en vervang met hul eie, en sodoende goedgelowige mense beïnvloed ( kyk na die beklemtoonde dele):


Hier is twee uittreksels daaruit:

Any thoughtful consideration of the removal of the foundation and the boundaries for Christian faith must conclude that this postmodernization is fatal to biblical faith, STRIPPING THE TERM “FAITH” OF ANY REAL MEANING and opening the door to substantial change in fundamental beliefs.


The Emerging Church movement acts like an autoimmune disease, STRIPPING CHRISTIAN TERMINOLOGY OF ITS BIBLICAL MEANINGS, and it acts like an immunocompromising disease, disarming the body’s defenses against foreign invasion. The result is that this movement represents a deadly influence within the Church which requires a decisive response from those who recognize it as such.

Henrietta said...

Ek het gesê ek sal navorsing doen oor hoe die EC die term “missional” sien. Hier is goeie inligting:


Hieruit blyk dat hulle nie meer die bring van die evangelie as belangrik sien nie, maar meer ‘n tipe social gospel:

“Since the emergent church sees the gospel not merely as the redemption of lost souls but also as the restoration of the planet and salvation from man’s inhumanity to man, they comprehend their task as Christians differently from that of most evangelicals. They call it “missional”.”

Henrietta said...

Contemplative Spirituality: A belief system that uses ancient mystical practices to induce altered states of consciousness (the silence) and is rooted in mysticism and the occult but often wrapped in Christian terminology. The premise of contemplative spirituality is pantheistic (God is all) and panentheistic (God is in all). Common terms used for this movement are "spiritual formation," "the silence," "the stillness," "ancient-wisdom," "spiritual disciplines," and many others.

Hier gekry: http://www.spiritual-research-network.com/emergingchurch.html

Henrietta said...

Hierdie kom uit ‘n artikel van Bob DeWaay oor hoe die EC “missionary” of “missional” verstaan – lees meer by die skakel:

“According to Emergent thinking, being missional means following the journey wherever it leads as long as it corrects society’s evils. In their view, missional is more like the opposite of apathy; it is zeal to right the wrongs of society. Because the eschatological end of the journey is assured for everyone, the path the journey takes doesn’t matter much. One mission to fight social evil is as good as another; what matters most is that we are missional together.”


Henrietta said...

BAIE dankie Liza vir die stuk uit "World Religions" oor die New Age - dit is SO van toepassing hier!

Liza-Nel said...

N.T. Wright
(This paper was given as the Latimer Fellowship, Orange Memorial Lecture, 1999.)
1. Introduction: The Bible and the Modern World
I had better begin by defining my terms. Most of us are dimly aware that, as someone said recently, 'reality isn't what it used to be'. We are in the middle of enormous cultural changes within Western society, which leave many observers bewildered and many participants bemused. All the signs are that things are going to get more confusing, not less, and that the onset of the Millennium, which at one level had nothing to do with postmodernity and all that, made people on the one hand eager for and on the other hand fearful of great changes in the way we look at the world. The so-called 'Millennium bug', the nasty cold that all our computers were supposed to catch on January 1st 2000, is, at the level of contemporary mythology, a wonderfully symptomatic disease of postmodernity: explorations into
cyberspace that forgot a ruthlessly modernist piece of equipment, so that when the new age dawned they, as with Cinderella on the stroke of midnight, may well have turned into pumpkins.

[...] Living out the story
The Bible does not tell us to ignore postmodernity and carry on as though modernity were still what mattered. Far from it. The Bible tells a story which will lead us through postmodernity's necessary critique of modernity and on, through, out the other side. And all this leads me to what I most passionately want to say today.
I believe we have an enormous opportunity, here and now, for serious and joyful Christian mission to the post-postmodern world. There are those who seem to yearn for the days when things were nice and simple, when a supposed biblical gospel could be preached to people who were, in effect, unsuccessful Pelagians, trying to pull themselves up by their moral bootstraps. But we can't go back to the 1950s. (Someone said of the church that it is now finally and gloriously ready for the 1950s! God help us-we have got to be ready for 2020 and 2040, and teaching our young people how to enage with those issues, and not to preach to the world we grew up in.) Nor, however, can or should we succumb to postmodernity itself, though it may well be that for some people and groups a time of penitence, in which modernist nonsense can be purged and rethinking can begin, might be a good idea.

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Liza-Nel said...

Dis soos wat NT Wright daar skryf, ons leef in deurmekaar tye. Niks is meer soos wat dit 'n dekade of meer terug was nie. Maar dit help ook nie ons skop teen die prikkels nie..."The Bible tells a story which will lead us through postmodernity's necessary critique of modernity and on, through, out the other side."

Henrietta said...

Dankie vir die mooi prentjie Liza EN die sinvolle bydraes hierby! ek hou ook baie van die deel regs bo: dat hedendaagse "sending" nie sal slaag nie, want dit is soos 'n kar sonder 'n enjin! Ek sit dit graag op FB by die Kaapse studiegroep - hulle sal dit ook waardeer!

Liza-Nel said...

So terloops die prentjie by jou pos is weer 'n skildery deur Daniel Bonnell (Emmausgangers) genaamd The Baptism of Christ.

Ek hou van sy 'vibrant' gebruik van kleur dit laat die onderwerp absoluut lewe.

Hier is 'n skakel na ander van sy mooi werke oor die lewe van Christus...

Henrietta said...

Dankie vir die skakel Liza! Nog een om vir my oudste kleindogter aan te pos: ek dink ek het jou vertel dat sy ook grafiese kuns swot - nou tweede jaar by PUK. Verlede jaar was sy "Sparky" van die jaar ( beste eerste jaar student).

Liza-Nel said...

Geluk ouma Henrietta!

Henrietta said...

Dankie Liza! Mens is nederig-dankbaar as die "nageslag" die regte paaie bewandel. Nerine is nie net "sparky" in haar studies waaroor sy passie-vol is nie, maar sy is ook passie-vol oor haar Christenwees en daaroor is ek duisendmaal meer dankbaar!