Daar word op die oomblik in die kerk meer gepraat oor self-ontplooiing as oor self-opoffering.-Anon.......As ‘n kerk haar woorde begin devalueer, dan word die kerk ‘n ramp vir die volk. - K Schilder


“Have Western Protestant liberals lost their collective theological nerve?

"The Episcopal Church is the greatest disgrace in Christian history and it is being led down the path by so called Christian leadership." ( Read more here and also under comments:Lausanne III conference, read here: http://www.virtueonline.org/portal/modules/news/article.php?storyid=13415 )


Henrietta said...

"One way in which western church leaders have addressed Christian claims to truth is to characterize them as exclusive and argue for inclusivity, commented Church of England blogger Canon Chris Sugden.

Guinness replied that inclusivity is indifference to truth which is profoundly dangerous. He referred to a conversation with a Roman Catholic cardinal who noted that while the Borgia popes, one of whom fathered children with his own daughter, never denied a single issue of the creed. Leaders in The Episcopal Church deny much of the creed and remain in post.

Guinness argued that the Church has always made distinctions because truth matters. Inclusivity is indifferent to truth. There is respectful tolerance (based on freedom of conscience) and sloppy tolerance, which is muddle headed, ethical folly and a slipway to real evil. "There are some profoundly dangerous ideas around and they should be challenged." Or, in teen speak, "whatever" leads to "anything goes".

"Western Protestant liberals have lost their collective theological nerve. Our life is to live out the truth. His word is truth, we can live out the truth," concluded Guinness.

Yf said...

I would have liked to see the reaction of those on the Diversity Forum who are "pro-inclusiveists" as meny of them seem to be, because that is what they want to achieve with their pro- diversity

Liza said...

"Here is the great evangelical disaster -- the failure of the evangelical world to stand for truth as truth. There is only one word for this -- namely accommodation: the evangelical church has accommodated to the world spirit of the age. .

[...] And let us understand that to accommodate to the world spirit about us in our age is nothing less than the most gross form of worldliness in the proper definition of that word. And with this proper definition of worldliness, we must say with tears that, with exceptions, the evangelical church is worldly and not faithful to the living Christ."
-(Francis A. Schaeffer, The Great Evangelical Disaster, Ch. 1)

Sterk woorde, maar in die kol. Ek praat onder korreksie as ek sê dat bogenoemde uitreksel een van Schaeffer se uitgangspunte was op die eerste Lausanne Beraad wat in 1974 gehou is. Lank voordat die woord "Emergent" gemunt is het hy dié verkynsel al voorspel.