Daar word op die oomblik in die kerk meer gepraat oor self-ontplooiing as oor self-opoffering.-Anon.......As ‘n kerk haar woorde begin devalueer, dan word die kerk ‘n ramp vir die volk. - K Schilder

6/16/2010

Can a Christian deny the virgin birth?

And deny the resurrection. And Christ’s ascension. And... and... and... Of course this will bring us to the definition of a Christian – who is a Christian? A loose definition would be: “A follower of Christ”. But that is too wide. Then people who believe in Jesus as a historical figure and admire his ways and life, may also call themselves Christians (Read on).

5 comments:

Henrietta said...

Maybe one can rephrase the question and ask: Who is a Christian according to the reformed tradition? Or can a Christian in the reformed tradition deny the virgin birth?

This immediately gives a different perspective, doesn’t it?

Gideon said...

“…who is a Christian? A loose definition would be: “A follower of Christ”. But that is too wide. Then people who believe in Jesus as a historical figure and admire his ways and life, may also call themselves Christians.”
This last statement, of course, is misleading – merely believing that Jesus is an historical figure and merely admiring Him, does NOT qualify one as a follower of Jesus and, therefor, a christian.
James.2:19: “Do you believe that there is only one God? That is correct. The devils also believe it, and they are terrified.”

Henrietta said...

Well said, Gideon! One wonders whether it is audacity or ignorance?

Liza said...

Several years ago, Cecil Sherman - then a Southern Baptist, but later the first coordinator of the Cooperative Baptist Fellowship - stated: "A teacher who might also be led by the Scripture not to believe in the Virgin Birth should not be fired." Consider the logic of that statement. A Christian can be led by the Bible to deny what the Bible teaches? This kind of logic is what has allowed those who deny the virgin birth to sit comfortably in liberal theological seminaries and to preach their reductionistic Christ from major pulpits.

Christians must face the fact that a denial of the virgin birth is a denial of Jesus as the Christ. The Savior who died for our sins was none other than the baby who was conceived of the Holy Spirit, and born of a virgin. The virgin birth does not stand alone as a biblical doctrine, it is an irreducible part of the biblical revelation about the person and work of Jesus Christ. With it, the Gospel stands or falls.

-Dr R. Albert Mohler, Jr. (President of The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky)

Danie Loots said...

Related to this, Henrietta, is beliefs related to the Supernatural Ressurection of Jesus Christ, as you would agree.

Thus, Can a Christian deny the Supernatural Ressurection of Jesus Christ?

Can people that denies this, still call themselves Christians?

A much more worrying factor for me is how many theologians, in our theological faculties, does not believe these two fundemental truths about Jesus?

I so much wish that the majority of Theologians working in Universities in South Afrca, does actually still believe in the Supernatural virgin birth of Jesus Christ and His Ressurection.

The events during the opening of Tukkies' Theological Faculty this year made me worry quite a bit.